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August 26, 2007

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suzy vegas

Gee - I didnt know so many others were writing about tango and living in BsAs. We should all meet for coffee on Plaza Serrano!!!

Shanie

Hi Deby,

I just want to say I completely agree with you.
We had friends that were living in Argentina for a year. They continually spoke about how crowded the buses were, how the buses wouldn't stop for them at times and how they would have to wait so long.
We bought a truck here when we moved permently in 2004. I love the freedom that the truck gives us.
Our friends missed out on a lot of places that they didn't get to see because they were to cheap and would only take the bus. I think sometimes foreign tourists need to realize that you are on a trip to discover the journey, no matter how it presents itself. Not take the cheapest way possible.
Would love to meet you sometime when we are in BA next. Great blog.

Bill

Very amusing. You're an American living in BA complaining about foreign people. The pot calls the kettles black, yet again. You never see yourself as part of the problem. You also somehow seem to think you're Argentine.

Regarding Argentina, I'll say that history repeats itself. Hyperinflation is just beginning and will increase until there is another breakdown. Since you haven't complained about taxes, I'll assume that hasn't become an issue yet. It will be.

The devaluation of the peso is an illusion that I'm sure you're aware of by this point. Sure it's trading at 3 to the U.S. dollar but what does that matter if everything increases in price by 3 fold? Still tricks the tourists though doesn't it?

Regarding Tango, it's something that BA is famous for and is becoming a victim of it's own success. As the Eagles song goes, "you call someplace paradise and, you kiss it goodbye". If you as a foreign person moan about these things, imagine how the Argentines feel?

My biggest complaint about living in BA was that there were too many foreign people polluting the culture. Too many english teachers and too many McDonalds for my taste. So... I don't live there anymore.

Yes, I won't be missed or whatever other cliche stupid comments you might come up with. I'm just saying that I lived there and started to feel like what you're going through, so I left.

No more complaining. It's pointless.

ramon

I agree with your post fully and have noted that people who have visited us before now want us to be still cheap and think we are ripping them off. I find this attutude peculiar as for Argentines prices have gone up 100 percent in the last few years.

United States citizens are the worst offenders in this case as they refuse to pay anything but the most lowest cost for products here. They simply complain that everything is so dear when for us its been very dear for many a year.

Most products are the same price for foreigners as for Argentines except a few exceptions. Temporary rent or travel by Aerolineas argentinas. The rent thing I find laughable as its to do with the rule of guarantia and if they can get this the price is the same. We are not ripping you off its the same for us as well.

United States govenment treats Argentine citizens like cashcows. We must pay 100 dollars just for the chance to visit your GREAT country.

You are guests in Argentina and you must respect our laws and ways like we do yours. Is that hard to understand.

elizabeth

And P.S. thanks for the reminders about being penny-wise and pound-foolish regarding safe transportation etc. Very Good Advice.

Tina

You got me thinking about women's safety with this one... I feel bad for Clare but I maintain that it's always, always worth it to pay a few extra bucks to get home safe. -And sometimes you get an interesting conversation with a taxi driver out of the deal. I once got one that spoke Italian, which meant I got to talk too. :-) That made it completely worth it.

mejarc

//They complain about the cost of taxis

Jeez, they should take a taxi in San Francisco then (assuming one can find one of the few available). SF taxi fares feel like highway robbery, especially compared to the BsAs rides.

Can't everybody coming in with euros or dollars just thank their lucky stars?

elizabeth

Deby,
There have been a lot of blog entries of late, about these issues of tourists being cheap, complaining, being rude, dressing poorly, etc. It seems that for those of us who want to experience Buenos Aires, and the milongas, it is a problem too. We are travelling with open hearts, and open wallets, and do not wish to offend, to pay too little, (or way too much!), and we want to make friends, to dance, to learn, to eat, to walk, to breath the air of the old city. How about an entry to give advice to us? Or is it at the point that we should stay home or go elsewhere? Not all of us are rich either, just lovers of tango and the music.

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