My Photo

Other Places on the Web to find TangoSpam

  • Tango Thoughts
    Jenney Surelia has a great tango blog called Tango Thoughts. I have a weekly column that is called "Tia Deby." Jenney is based in London and both teaches tango and holds a very popular milonga. You can also access Jenney on Facebook. She can email you her newsletter directly if you contact her. The content is excellent - and not just because I am a part of it!
  • London Tango
    Arlene Toth is an American living in London for 20 years. She is active on the London tango scene and has a witty tango blog. From time to time I am a guest commentator on her blog.

Other Blogs About Tango and Argentina

  • Fourpointreport
    Recently moved to Buenos Aires with his Argentine with Fred provides headlines and a point of view.
  • Seashells and Sunflowers
    The adventures of Katie who moved from the suburbs of Philadelphia to Necochea in Argentina.
  • Good Morning BA
    Samuel has reinvented himself as the "concierge" of Buenos Aires. His site has everything a visitor and new person to Buenos Aires might imagine.
  • sallycat’s adventures
    The tale of yet another foreign woman coming to Buenos Aires to seek fame as a tango dancer. She writes of her experiences learning to dance better and of her Argentine partner.
  • yanqui mike buenos aires argentina
    Well one can never call this guy a fence sitter. He tells it the way he sees it. However that is...
  • Tangoscopio
    This blog is in Spanish. It is written by Guillermo a young Argentine who dances tango. If you read Spanish you will find it delightful to read as it is from the point of view of one who was born here in Buenos AIres.
  • Sugar & Spice
    Frank has been here since 1999. He is one of the most success full immigrants. He runs a cookie factory. His cookies are sold all over Buenos Aires in the largest supermarkets. We are very proud of him. His blog is a commentary on his life here in Buenos Aires.
  • An American Expat's Life in Argentina
    I want to be the flower girl at Peter's wedding. He has yet to indulge me in this fantasy. OK, I still adore him and Maria del Carmen, and his well written blog.
  • tangocherie
    Cherie is from LA is another ex-pat who has come here to live. We have different lives but they always seem to cross.
  • Suitcase on wheels
    This is no longer an active blog. I love this blog. I never met Matt but I felt like I met him from his blog. He writes from his heart. He has left Buenos Aires for Bariloche to start a new busines. In the end he left Argentina to go back to New Zealand. He still maintains the site Bloggers in Argentina. Maybe one day he will come back to us.

Bariloche May 2009

  • IMG_0246
    Amy and I went to Bariloche in May 2009. Here are some pictures from our trip.

=====


« The Milonga Chronicles: Clavado | Main | The Milonga Chronicles: Clavado otra vez »

August 18, 2008

La Milonga Gay y mas

My friends want to go to the Gay milonga.  I have never been.  One is American and one is Argentine. So after dinner we get in a taxi and head toward Maipu 444.  After so many years in San Francisco and the Gay bars there, I am sure this will be tame.  I have heard the music is great.  But then don't Gay places always have good music?

When we come up the steps the Gay flag is displayed.  The cover is 18 pesos, this is more than the traditional milongas I go to here.  It is not as crowded either.  We are 3 women.  We are seated on the street side of the room.  It appears that this is where all the Gay men are seated.  Gay women seem to be on the other side of the room.  Mixed couples seem to be on the sides. 

On one side of us is a table of men from France, on the other side is a table of men from Italy.  I look on the floor.  The style of dancing is mostly escenario.  Large steps. Ganchos.  Boleos.  This floor is too small to accommodate this style.  There are some traditional dancers.  During the cortina it seems only the mixed couples who dance nuevo stay on the floor.

I like the music.  The DJ is doing an excellent job.  Although the style of dancing is different, I hope I get to dance.  I feel very comfortable here.  I notice several men dancing with other men who come to the regular milongas.  I see people that I know but they look away. Nobody seems to greet anyone at this milonga. 

After about 20 minutes our Argentine friend announces she is leaving.  She does not like it here.  She is very uncomfortable.  I am not sure what she thought she would find here.  She knows that Snow and I are not uncomfortable so she does not want to appear weird to us.  It is obvious this was not a good idea for her to come here.

"I wonder if anyone will ask me to dance." Snow says to me.  "They probably think we are a couple." I tell her. "Thank God you aren't ugly.  I would hate to have someone think I would be with an ugly chick." I tease her.  She laughs.  "Maybe they will think you are my sugar momma."

I decide to add some drama to my life.  Not like I don't have enough of it already.  I text him "Donde estas?"  In seconds he texts back "Estoy en Dandi. Cuidate, nos vemos."  I text back "Estoy en la milonga Gay. Cuando?"  At this point I look to my left and I realize I am being invited to dance.

I go to meet this man to dance.  Open embrace.  It has been more than 2 years since I danced this way.  Since I last visited California. This is not fun on a knee that hurts.  The man's name is Sergio. He is surprised when I talk and I am a foreigner.  He thought for sure I was from here.  He is very sweet.  I am trying not to knock him over when we dance.

Dancing on this floor reminds me of dancing in the U.S. I just got kicked in the butt by the couple behind us.  I toy with the idea of doing a hign boleo to get them back.  I decide to be nice.  It is a dance, not a war.  I watch them continue to kick their way around the dance floor.  I don't think I will ever understand dancers who collide and kick other dancers and don't apologize.  It is so rude.  It seems to be universal in this style of dance.

Sergio feels genuinly sorry that the dancers are so rude.  I tell him that I normally dance salon style tango and I am not used to this bumper car attitude.  He agrees.  He makes an interesting comment to me.  He tells me that he asked me to dance because I was so feminine and pretty.  He says that he is gay, but that when he dances with a woman he wants her to be like a woman, not like a man, because he dances with men all the time.  When the tanda ends he thanks me.

I go back to the table.  Snow is trying to make eye contact with anyone.  "I guess I am not attractive to the women." she says to me.  I tell her "The women are on the other side of the room.  You need to go to the bathroom if you want them to see you."  She thinks about this but stays put.

I pick up my phone.  Another message. "No se cuando quieres verme :) este noche?" (I I don't know when you want to see me, tonight)  I am not stupid, I know what he is thinking so I text back, "Si, pero en el baile." (Yes, but in the milonga) He ignores the baile and texts back to me "What time are you going back to your home, if you want...I don't know if you want.."  I decide to wait awhile before I text back.  This guy is such a jerk.  Especially for a guy that is supposed to be engaged to another woman. 

I accept another dance.  This dancing open is really not my style.  Maybe I would like it better if I was not in so much pain.  Snow says I look like I am in pain when I am dancing.  That is not good.  I don't want it to seem like it is from my partner.  She still is not dancing, but we both like the music, and we both are laughing over the stupid text messages.

Finally I send one back. "I am not interested in the man of another woman.  Soy mujer derecha y con valor (basically I have values and am not desperate). You need to look for someone else."  Which I know he is doing because he is sending these same kind of text messages to several other women. I found that out the other day when I was having mates with a group of women dancers. He is really mad.  He is not used to being turned down, especially by me.

We stay until 1:00 am.  Snow has not danced at all.  We decide to leave.  We decide that Michael my Gay husband should come here.  He might meet a really nice man here that I would approve of.  I like the music.  I felt very comfortable here.  It is not my style of tango, but I would not hesitate to come again.

We hail a taxi.  I tell the driver where we want to go.  He immediately takes off down Corrientes.  I ask him "Como vamos?, No vamos por Cordoba?"  He tells me we are going por bajo.  I tell him I think this is farther and I would prefer to go the other way.  He tells me the other is faster.  He ignores me.

This turns out to be the taxi ride from hell.  It is a good thing that I live here and I know how to act. He is driving like a lunatic.  He refuses to stop the taxi.  I am watching the meter.  I argue with him the whole way down Libertador.  I tell him the trip should not be more than 15 pesos he tells me I don't know what I am talking about.  I know he thinks that Snow and I are both tourists.  I tell him 50 times I live here.  It should be obvious, that although my accent is not native my form of talking is close.

We pass Scalabrini and I ask him why he did not turn down Scalabrini, the same with Sarmiento, next thing I know we are by the Hipodromo.  I call him a pelotudo and tell him I do not need a tour of the city after living here for 5 years.  Snow is terrified.  (She has never heard Porteños argue)

This guy is so stupid he has not realized by now that I do live here.  He tells me to pay him what the ride costs.  I tell him no problem.  When we get to my apartment, Snow insists I pay the meter price of 23 pesos, I refuse.  I have 15 pesos ready for him.  She runs out of the cab into the building while I give him the folded money.  I walk into the building and alert the guard as to what is going on.

When the guy realizes that I have shorted him 8 pesos he comes to the door screaming that I shorted him 8 pesos.  I yell back "Abusador de los extranjeros."  He is furious and calling me all kinds of bad names.  I start to laugh.  Snow is so freaked out she goes upstairs to the apartment.  Even the guard is laughing.  Finally the guy leaves.  The guard looks at me "Aprendiste bien! Sos una porteña!" He told me had the guy stayed a minute longer he would have called for the policeman stationed on the corner around the block to come and told him it was a case of an abuse of foreigners.

I go upstairs.  Snow is still shaking.  "You are amazing."  she says to me.  "No," I say to her, "If they over charge me 1 or 2 pesos, maybe 3 is one thing, but this guy was an asshole.  8 pesos is rediculous. I wonder how many people he has done that to. That is the first time anything like that has happened to me.  I have heard about that happening to others, but it has never happened to me."

I go into the kitchen to see Roxie and to make a cup of tea.  I am checking my email when I get another text message.  This one says "I am in my bed and I want to tell you that I think that we can be friends.  I think that you understand that I don't want anything else other than friendship (does he have a short term memory problem or what?)and that we can teach classes together in your apartment.

I text him back "I think you are already sleeping, because you are dreaming."

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

I think I got that taxi driver. I got so mad when he didn't listen to me (even though I am a foreigner) that I flung 5 pesos at him and flounced into the hotel... Didn't get any trouble from him though, presumably because of hotel security

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been saved. Comments are moderated and will not appear until approved by the author. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Comments are moderated, and will not appear until the author has approved them.

Global Post

  • Global Post
    When the foreign news correspondents announced that they were going to cut back a vaccum was left in the market. Out of this came GlobalPost.com partnering with Huffingtonpost.com to become the world's largest aggregator of news using the Internet. They set out to find 350 of the world's best blogs to assist in reporting the news. TangoSpam was chosen along with several others here in Argentina as one of those 350 blogs. TangoSpam will be highlighted daily on Globalpost and from time to time on Huffingtonpost. Who would have ever thought writing those letters at 12 years old for my mother to Blue Cross/Blue Shield would amount to this?

What the Press Writes...

  • TangoSpam makes the NYT!
    What a surprise! I was the only blog mentioned in this article on Buenos Aires.
  • Así nos bloguean
    No one was more shocked than me when a journalist from Clarin one of the two local newspapers in Buenos Aires wanted to interview me. Here is the article...in Español.
  • What the Washington Post has to say about Moving to Buenos Aires
    I think I am going to puke if I read another article on how ex-pats come here because it is cheap. These articles chronicle how mostly americans come here and act like celebrities with new found wealth.

Your email address:


Powered by FeedBlitz

Blog powered by TypePad

Translate This Page

  • Choose a Language

©Copyright TangoSpam

  • © Deby Novitz 2008TangoSpam all rights reserved. No parts of this blog may be reproduced without permission of the author. This blog may be linked to other blogs or websites. You may not copy, lift, or change any part of this blog without express written consent of the author.